PS..one more thing..If I said HALF the things my H said to me he would have been gone a long time ago..telling someone they dont love them..never did, they are fat,stupid, ignorant, a shrew, no man would ever love me, a horrible mother... I respect him and I love him which is why I have forgiven him for saying those things. We all say things we do not mean when we are mad..I am not playing a martyr here I am just being honest. I may have nagged but no one deserves to be told those things!