Phoenixdeux, get up on the wrong side of the bed? ;-)


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You've said you piece. You've told her you recognize your faults. That's enough talking for now.


I did tell her in our last discussion that I've said all I can say about our past and I'm only looking at the future now.

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On the other side, you put her up on a pedestal like she's the cats meow. She's a cheating wife...she isn't all that.


Yeah, I have done that a little too much lately, because she's so much better now, and I really like who she is, but she ripped herself down by calling herself the "biggest loser W in the world". She reminded me of all her faults, and she was right.

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I think it's past time you started doing your own thing and forget about her until she's ready to actually come through for the marriage.


I am doing my own thing the vast majority of the time. We were almost completely isolated from each other for six months. At some point, if you're going to try to fix your M, you have to start talking. Both she and I expressed that we're glad we're talking now.

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No more empty threats.


I haven't threatened anything. And the ramifications of her not cutting off contact with OM are not empty threats.

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Start focusing on your own life. I don't see that you have kids (do you?) so there really isn't anything that is keeping you together or that she could miss as far as a family. You have no way of knowing whether she missed you at all...she had OM to keep her company. It's time for you to start getting to the point where you won't miss her at all either.


We have three little kids, and she misses our family terribly. That's why she's crying during kid transitions. I know she misses me because when we see each other her demeanor and body language is so forward, and she peppers me with questions about my life. It's almost like she's starving for my friendship.

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It's time for you to start getting to the point where you won't miss her at all either.


That's my goal if she chooses to not break away from OM altogether.