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LFW's,

Ok i like your analogy of down vs up. Makes sense, patience is much better with that analogy. Slowly vs quickly.

No your right, there are things I am willing to give up and things I'm not and there are things I want to do better.

I have sat on my hands all day. Texted kids, heard nothing back.

Se La Vey.

I hear anything from MLC I'll let you know.

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But,

Does an MLC'er eventually remember all the good in their spouse and how much they meant to their spouse?

I know right now mine is running away and cutting me off and not running my head in a brick wall trying to figure her out.

For example Sat's game she sat down next to my Dad.

She walked up to me twice, just to prove her point things are over, I guess, because she didn't say hi or goodbye to me, but gave me sons football pads and pictures.

I handed the pictures back nicely and said I don't need these right now.

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I mean she really went out of her way to be nice to people around me, but would only give me a dirty looks and made a point to say goodbye to my dad and son, to the point of overkill to them and didn't say anything to me.

I just kept my head up, shoulders back and smiled.

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Don't worry, I kept email back KISS! Did not play a victim. D lied to wife about calling and texting me back.

MLC said she would support me if I let her know. I did not respond to that part of her email. We all have seen enough emails from her using the kids and house against me to know that isn't true at the moment.

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Why didn’t she go with you Saturday?

My response:Ask her, she has ignored 11 texts and 3 phone calls.

Wife's email back:She told me you texted and asked if she was up and she said yes. I will support you if you let me know. I would have gotten her up. I told her to call you last night also. She said you were busy. I told her you were never too busy for her. She was texting you last night when we took friend home. She is excited about the reunion

My response back:"Last text from her 3:10 Saturday AM."I told her to call you last night also. "She must have been busy, No call from her." She was texting you last night when we took friend home."Not true."

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ayk,

Teenagers benefit from parents not talking to each other and having the same information. They can hide in the cracks.

Maybe somebody here has some better input as to how it works for them (it took my H and I over a year to start weekly phone calls re: kids). I keep it simple, but I do tell him the cool stuff too (parental pride).

I know that you are in a different place than I am, so how about talking to a C or DB coach about it.

Communicating through the kids works as long as they want the other one to know.

Just a thought.

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Hmm…that’s too bad. Wish she wouldn’t lie about it. Son is coming home from school sick today. No football for him tonight. You can see them both tonight while I am at conferences.

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Ayk,

I may be way off base....but maybe DB your daughter. Like Grace said....your daughter is slipping through the cracks in my opinion. Obviously MLC wants you to spend time with your daughter (no reason for her to lie) and you made the attempt. Your daughter could be benefiting from the reduced parental communication and using that to her advantage.

On a parent site I went to...a mother was complaining about her children not coming in for dinner (huge fights that were destroying the basic dinnertime family situation). The therapist for the site said "Tell them once it is dinner time...make their plate and leave it on the table. Don't tell them twice". Eventually they will get tired of eating cold food and start coming in when called.....it worked for the mom after a week. So if your daughter doesn't want to respond....let her not respond. Do some cool guy stuff with your son instead. Eventually she will realize that your son is doing cool stuff with dad and she isn't.

Does that make sense? Long day here...lol


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Reunion/Saturday night.
Only going to show off our kids,PLEASE DO NOT TAKE PERSONALLY,YOU ARE NOT MISSING OUT ON ANYTHING. Of course you are and were invited.

Anyone asks,"Mom sends her love."

Hockey game after and might get a hotel room with kids,we'll see how that goes.

IS THAT TOO MUCH??

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Too much..I would suggest something more like this..."Going to the reunion and Hockey game Saturday. Might talk with the kids about getting a hotel room afterwords if things go well."

I would suppose this is a family event? Those invites are tough. You don't want to alienate her, but at the same time you shouldn't re-invite her either. Does she knows that she was invited? It is a double edged sword with family invites....I would chose the duller edge if possible.


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