I don't think he is ready to admit that our R is worth going to Retrouvaille. But, you never know. He also really needs individual help. We have done Imago and all kinds of things that really clearly demonstrated why we are together and how we could heal together. It just did not fit with his image. Well, it is more than that, he is also hurt and scared that it would go back to how it was (me making him feel like sh*t) but, the behavior that everyone gets cuckoo about here now (comments to the kids etc) were happening in the M and I would react so I'm not sure how the heck that was supposed to be managed. He would act like a weenie and eventually I would call him on it and then he felt like crap. Kind of like now. Anyway, you have to DO the things that work.
The girl...she's thousands of miles away and looking back, not only has he been with me (barf), he has dated other women that he subsequently threw in my face. So, I don't think she is quite as significant as he makes her. I mean I think it is more of an ego macho European thing...I have my wife, I have my GF, I'm a stud...
Jesus, I don't know how I could ever be with him again...