Gucci is correct in his evaluation about all of this, and I knew he was....simply b/c of how the human nature is.....but I would not encourage it in the past b/c of the the Christian perspective--and didn't want to mislead a newcomer in anything I might be "advising", but hey.....I won't throw stones when I've seen Pup do everything he could and it did not budge her!
Sandi, thanks heaps for your post.
Human nature is a thing! To ignore its immutable laws lands us in all kinds of trouble. The Russians tried communism for 70 years but that didn't do so well, as brilliant as it sounded, because it kept bumping into human nature.
Funny, that.
Gucci cops a lot of flak here but I admire the courage of his convictions and frankly he is right.
When my wife left me on 28th January 2008 I was naturally crushed but because I was so ashamed of my actions which occasioned the breakup, I didn't go after her. I simply did my best to move on and to start dating other women. She did not like that one bit! I have never begged her to love me, I even wished her well on her way.
My wife, just like Puppy's, AFWAW's, Phoenixdeux's, Steve McQueen's and others always respond favourably when we man up and stop fawning, ingratiating and supplicating over them. I have yet to see a LBH who supplicated his WAW back to the marriage.
I wish all women thought like you, and I'm sure a lot of women wish that their men knew an extra thing or two. You all respond to the same thing (alpha male behaviour) whether you like it or not. You can't help it! But Sandi, you accept, acknowledge and celebrate that fact rather than pretend it isn't so.
Hey Puppy, I am really happy for you and your wife and I think you have effected some amazing changes to your marriage. Congratulations also on being an expectant grandfather!
Me: 46 W: 46 T: 23 M: 20 DS12 DD11 DS5
W left: 01/28/08 Discovered OM: 02/26/08 W back for 9 days: 04/08 W returned 05/21/08 EA/PA - 01/08-07/09 W's MLC 2008-2014 (realised this much later)