Originally Posted By: futureunknown
Well, your last year's tax return is her document, and she can even get that from the IRS if she really really wants to, although it would take a while. I don't think she has any right to your paycheck stub, without a court order.

Get a L and tell him/her what your position is. Don't let her bully you. All this stuff takes a long time. Continue to show her the new you.

Bringing up the kids isn't helping your cause. She knows how this is affecting them, but she still thinks it's best. You telling her she's wrong is just more bad energy between you and you don't need that. Remember, it's always better to agree with them. These little battles aren't worth the added damage to your R.

The first legal moves are indeed hard. If it helps, know that it might make her feel more secure so she can let go of some of her anger. Remember, she's keeping that anger because she feels it's protecting her. As the reality of a D gets closer, it may cause her to re-evaluate what she's doing. My W was dead set on a D six months ago, but I've noticed how much easier it is to be resolute about something that's way off in the future. As the time gets closer, she's much less sure of it, especially as our R continues to improve.


OK futureunknown, I see your point regarding the kids...I've said my piece about that...I felt like I needed to...now, I don't need to mention it anymore. I don't intend to.

Yeah, it's hard. She has a lot of hurt...she started crying on the phone this morning, before the anger came back. She sounds resolute. Got pissed because she wouldn't have these documents when she went to see her lawer today.

Thank you for being here. Man, I need some support right now.


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.