Hello Kittyfish & Sandi2!

[BigJohn]

BJ, I think you are about the only one around the board I've talked with at length and not really get a hard 2X4 and use it once or twice. So.....maybe I was too soft with ya?

Well if I haven't gotten some of the things you've tried to pound into my head by now I certainly do deserve a 2 x 4 upside the head!

In all seriousness, it still grieves me to know how much pain you have suffered and to see your W throw so much out the window!! Isn't it tragic that a man has to reach that place that your W has finally pushed you.....before he realizes that she just won't see what she has and she continues to stubbornly reach for what she shouldn't want. (I hope that sounded the way I meant it.) Last night was one of those times that I cried when I would read about the heartache from the people here on the board. There is so much of it in our world right now--and it could be avoided if people appreciated the ones God gave to love them.

I'm with you. It is very sad. I would add that if only the WASs could only know that we could never go back to the way things were before, make the same mistakes as before- and learn themselves to forgive.

I don't know much to say tonight, other than to keep telling you that I am still supporting you and want the very best for you. I know you feel that your W has kicked you in the teeth.....but in all of that, you still seem to stand very tall. In her cruel attempts to cut you down to size (so to speak), don't let her whittle away at your self-esteem. She is only trying to see how far she can make you fall b/c of her own dark heart right now. You keep being the big man you are and be patient b/c you will have the love you deserve some day. If that is not your W, then she will realize too late how she once had everything and then she became such a loser.

I recognize this and of course she needs to continue to justify her actions. With the exception of through our children, her ability to hurt me now is severely diminished. Time for the tough love approach now.

Thanks for the support and feedback Sandi, I really appreciate it. (((Sandi)))