Originally Posted By: ClingingToHope

Right now, all of our talks are very businesslike and her tone is always positive. We aren't fighting at all, no cross words, but I worry that means the train will just keep rumbling along the tracks until the D is filed and final.

I fear that train, too. It may not be a rational one, though. Some progress has to happen on both sides. It's a good thing to have momentum and evolution, even if it takes you in a scary direction. Personally, I HAVE TO trust my W can make the best decisions. Among the options I'm not so appealing. I need to show her that I'm worth reconsidering.
Originally Posted By: ClingingToHope

I keep looking for an opening any opening where there is vulnerability and a chance for a real talk.

My suggestion is to be kind and listen. Show that you're flexible and willing to listen to her concerns. Usually you can do that by showing interest and concern for everyday (neutral) things like work or kids. Then wait. That's what I did--while trying HARD not to shoot myself in the foot. (I got a lot of it out of me here! Thanks everyone and sorry for whining!) I hid a lot of my hurt and neediness and that pays off.

Overall, I'm in a better place now after that conversation. Who knows what tomorrow will bring, though.

Last edited by M A Holm; 09/30/09 11:48 PM.

~Mark

Me: 38
W: 34
Together: 9yrs
1st M: may '03
1st D: april '08
1st bomb: june '08
remarried: oct '08
2nd bomb: aug '09 --(W asked for D one week into 3 mo. trial separation which was meant to save our M)