I think the most important message to send to the WAS in the things that you do and say is: "I will have a happy life with you or without you. You are not essential to my happiness." It leaves the door unblocked to reconciliation, but it also is a green light for you to move forward without him.
Yes, that has been consistently conveyed. However, I will never ever be a good enough actress to pull off that my optimal isn't having my family together. Call me "scr*wed" because I also don't think I can consider reconciling with him either.
Not everyone is a great actor but you can pull it off by living it. I can't imagine too much of the DBing stuff really works when its fake acting. I see people recommend it but if you don't feel it you're not going to fool anyone....
YOU CAN LIVE IT and make it real!!!
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
Let it ride, sweetie. You have had some actual human-sounding conversations with him, not just spew, and this is a LOT to process. No plan, no decisions for at least 48 hours. Digest.
Good advice!
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
So I don't mean enforcement, or transparency, etc. I am picturing something more like:
H: There's a great show here, do you want to go? (or "can I come over" or "do you want to go to this party" or. )
A&K: Are you still seeing OW?
H: Uhhh, Yes.
A&K: Then, No.
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It's more of a way of saying "I am fine and happy and moving on without you. I'm not going to compete with her in any way. If you want to court me, then end it with her first"
It's the only way you can be clear whether he is playing you and keeping his options open, or whether he is sincere when he makes moves toward you. It's the only way that you can be sure he faces his own issues and mistakes.
If I am hearing you correctly, the only way you would consider reconciling is if he is sincere, faces his issues, and corrects his mistakes.
This sounds right to me. It's not an ultimatum and its completely consistent with moving forward while leaving room for potential reconciliation.
I would imagine that you (A&K) are swimming in all sorts of thoughts and emotions right now and have little bandwidth to absorb or process this stuff. It makes sense to try to slow things down if you can. He's probably dieing to get at your reaction but you need to take control of the cadence.
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09
So, can I talk? All I would tell him is that I am digesting it all.
No
AKA: "Ben the school teacher" --- Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20 Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08 My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09 W w/OM 6/09-11/09