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Hi Mandy! Yes, at least, S and XH are in contact. It won't be perfect, but better than nothing. Eventually, I am sure, things will improve. XH did an awful thing, and he has paid the price for it. Don't welcome him back into your and S's lives too eagerly ... even just as friends ... let it evolve over time. He still hasn't apologized for anything (unless I've not read all your posts), and once he does that, then it may be possible to begin a friendship. In my humble opinion, of course. You know what's best for you.

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thanks BeingMe, I hear what your saying, and by the way no there as been no apology, no talk of anything only son, and I think ex seems to think that it is all forgotten about and he can just sweep it under the carpet, no worries, it will bite him when it does, regards

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Hi mandyloo,
Just wanted to say hi and wish you a good week. Take care.

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well been informed by ex's auntie that ex has indeed sold the car, the car was his pride and joy mainly because he had never been able to buy a brand new car ever before, he had this car designed and painted how he wanted it, choosing the seats, extras all the frills so to speak, he paid 22k for it four years ago and hes sold it for 5k, telling auntie he had to sell it because he needed some money, neither he or wifey is working at the moment, so that just leaves him with two mortgages to pay, the house I was in with him is all he as left, and I suspect that will have debt running up on it also, what a mess he is in and getting deeper in, will this guy ever hit bottom?

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I almost feel sorry for him, except I remember how he didn't care about turning you and S out into the street. So, my sympathy really lies in the fact that he has been so foolish. I think there's a "moral of the story" here, perhaps several. Betrayal bites back!


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BeingMe, yes I do feel sorry for him too, I do still care about the guy and dont want to see him do anything stupid, yes it is true what goes around comes around, no he didnt care about us when he threw us out of our home and did everything else he did, could this be karma, no-one knows, he as been foolish, very foolish, but that was his choice and the choice he is now having to live with, unfortunately, regards

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I wonder what it takes for then to hit a bottom
if ever
Mine too seems to have created more of a mess than anyone could imagine
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he keeps going ignoring the bills

the debt
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and goe in deeper still denying
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Just have a quick one to note, on speaking to ex's old aunt this week she is very very disgusted with ex's behaviour, but we know we cannot change that, however during the conversation, and something I didnt comment back on was, she was saying how she couldnt understand where all the money ex got left by his dads estate has gone, other things were mentioned but one that she said was the amount ex still owes on the mortgage that he pays on our old home, she disclosed not intentionally the amount, I know what was owing on the place when ex left and also when I left, I know from what she is saying that he as borrowed money on the house and he now owes more back to the bank than what he borrowed some 23 years ago, oh dear me what a mess he is in financially, the old place if it doesnt sell is supposed to be his own paid off thing in 18 months, I dont think no way no how is he going to pay off what he owes in that time, whether he finds work or not it is an impossibility and especially as he as the mortgage to pay with him and wifey as well, poor man dont know where he as got himself, but it is true about the mlc running debt up, this man never had debt and would never get into financial trouble the only debt he had with me was the mortgage, poor poor man. what a mess hes in, but at the end of the day not my problem, i will remain a freind

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Mandy, I am glad your son has something like a relationship with his dad, however, I think you need to be careful with your closeness of the situation. I also believe that you XH will land flat on his tail, told you that a long time ago, just be careful he doesn't drag you under when the ship sinks. Someone who throws his child out of his home is not someone who can EVER be trusted, and IMO not worthy of having a "friend" but that is your business, just be careful.

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Braveheart I hear you my friend, xx

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