Okay, so I'm a little gun-shy here. Not my favorite subject but I kind of think my H is having a simaliar case of what happened w/your W. I've never been a pursuer in this area and I do believe this is a MAJOR area for my sitch. So, I'll try and take some of your insights and use them in my dilemma. Thanks for that.

Intimacy is so much more than just sex. Some of what you mentioned, kissing body parts for hours and now your wife is doing this. If she can adapt to this phase and be "touched" w/love and all that you have for her, I believe she will achieve her "first" w/you. Some of it is a state of mind and how far you're willing to take yourself into this state of pleasure. I think it can be achieved! (You go MR. STUD MUFFIN!!)

"W is giving me lots of affection; she gave me lots of kisses after her C session yesterday, said she talked a lot about me and thanked me for being the most wonderful man on earth (WOW!). She said – explicitly – that she will never leave me. She tells me how much she loves me, and how much my love means to her, especially after this whole experience and what she sees as my unconditional love – even when I thought she was leaving." This is my "dream" Bill. That's what I continue to long for in my sitch. I'm sooooo happy that you've reached this point. Hooray for you and your W!! Tootles........


Karen