This is some great reading...at some points (during the last five minutes), I felt like I had read this all before. You know, in or out....but there are some snippets that really hit home. Lodo's post resonates the most with me (maybe because I feel the same way about my XW). It is ALL about trust...if THAT is gone, than there is nothing. And I will add that it is easy to verbalize that you will be there for soemone but the ACTIONS are what count. Like Lodo's XW, mine also could not be counted on when she had to give slightly more than she received. That is what I will suggest to my daughter, look for a giver....look for actions not just words. Maria, do you think your stbXH will be there when you will need him in the future. I honestly thought so...because I did not see the signs....because I was in love and we were involved....because there is emotion. If he was able to do what he did in the past, the odds are pretty good that he will let you down in the future somehow. Just my opinion and if your heart wants another shot, who am I to judge? I gave my XW another shot.