Hmmm. Well, I did stumble across the right thread. And ML was what I was referring to. so you have answered my question. And I admire your answer to underdog; I agree about the cathartic laughing and crying. Building intimacy, both emotional and sexual is good. I didn't know about the abuse thing. Whatever works for the two of you. There's something wonderful about "old home week" sex, if you know what I mean. It's as they say, like riding a bicycle.