I understand what you mean. Obviously the needy and clingy was because of MY ego issues (selfish), but at the time I viewed that as giving her attention that I thought she wanted and deserved. I know now that nothing could be further from the truth. As I said before it was just the wrong kind; not to mention it detracted from me focusing on my children more because I was too worried about the future of our r (I guess for good reason). Bottom line is I know I made mistakes that I will never make again. I'm sure my posts come across as "I don't get it", but I do.