What kerry said...seriously, you are mind reading but I'd shut that down and not open it again. Do NOT ask her why anything. The MC told us, as did the DB coach to me, that asking "Why?" questions are designed to put the other person on the defensive as they'll have to explain something. Don't do it. Who the hell cares anyhow?

(And Kerry, I do hear you about k4 but he's either the single most stubborn man I have ever "met", or he's really disturbed and needs serious help. So I'm kind of a my wit's end, although we connected privately early on so I held out hope. I won't though. )

FIB why do you say Orich is one of the 5% with Retrovaille? I dont' mean to parse words about it with your sitch but we found most of the couples who went, really got a lot out of it. Guess I'll slide over to his thread if I can find it to see what you mean. I wish we had gone a long time ago. But then, don't we all wish we coulda/shoulda/woulda done something else long ago...

FIB, we know you did your best. Do you believe that? Is there something you regret about all this that you wish YOU had done differently? Sure, if you had known THEN what you know now, but that's not reality. Based on what you knew THEN, how could you have done better?

I don't see it. I think we're saying "hats off to you, you fought a good fight. Sorry it didn't end the way you first wished; but you will prevail in life", with your own happiness. Doesn't matter whether she suffers or thinks she is happier; all I care about is how FIB finds his way in life...

(( j ))


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change