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You have to live with it. Just be very aware of what's going on.

Yeah. Well, W isn't planning a lot of trips going forward. She actually showed me pictures of her holding her friend's newborn, and said "See? THis is where I was." From what I can tell, the amount of contact isn't particularly strong, but yeah have to be aware.

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I got the exact, same line from my W. And she's still here. YOU don't have to make ANY decisions. This is HER party. She will have to make that call. And LET her. The pressure on her is a good thing.

Did you get her into counciling while she had this attitude? If so was it productive?

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PS Counselling is good. No matter why she tells herself she's going in there, it's good to get in there. You have no idea what can happen in there.

Yeah I think that's a good perspective. I made this appointment next Monday for me - but will talk to her about bringing W to sessions.

As for the tough love, walking away, being less needy - thanks for the comments guys. It's really tough. I think if you asked her perspective, I'm pulling it off. But - she initiated a hug when I really wanted one (luck?). I found myself this morning going down the stairs to seek her out, and had to turn myself around. I want to sit next to her, but make myself sit arcoss the room. I didn't have to sit next to her this morning, but I did - just for a second - when she put her head on my shoulder.

It's a close thing, but I am getting better at it.

I must say that I feel a lot better the last couple of days than I did on Sunday.

Thanks guys