Thanks for that Cat. Not sure I believe in anything astrologically but am learning to keep an open mind on everything!

Yeah, the listening talking thing is like playing with hand grenades at times.

Good session with therapist tonight. Good in that she agreed H was a head case(no not quite her words) and that he has huge difficulties with all relationships.

Then focusing on how I can direct him in some gentle non controlling way to be a better father to his kids.

I`m glad cos I really need for him to be there for them in some way at least and become sensitive to their needs.

A damage limitation execise for them all as we move forwards to God knows where!