I did something that seemed kind of silly but fun, but once I started I kept going. I had a free consultation with a psychic, and I was so intrigued I ended up paying for several more from different ones just to hear what they had to say and compare. I do believe that people can 'see' things but I was always skeptical whether this actually works, especially over the phone. The cynical side of me says that some of this feedback can be generic once they understand you are having M problems, but they seem very convincing (its a business I have to tell myself). I do NOT recommend this to anyone unless you are doing it for entertainment value for the most part. It is like gambling - if you are doing it to just have fun it is OK, but don't do it as a way to solve your financial problems smile

In all of the cases below all I told them was that I was having problems in the marriage and gave them my name, DOB and wife's name & DOB. For some I mentioned that there was an OP in them and some of them picked it up on their own.

Anyway - here are the notes - they all are fairly consistent. A couple were more negative than the others.

No matter what they said I am trying to take charge of this as much as I can anyway and not leaving it to 'fate'. In fact the last guy below told me as much - that free will can influence things in many directions.

Note that the first one was told nothing but my name and DOB, and she picked up on M problem and OM.


You are confused and at a crossroads – new beginnings are coming
There have been many adjustments and miscommunications going on in your life
You are asking “Where do I go from here?” - is it your M?
There is an outside influence – seems to be a male
I see him falling away at some point and the marriage being renewed
If she leaves you for him he will leave her and she will come to understand that somehow
Direction she is headed isn’t right
There is a chance for your marriage
She knows what she is doing is wrong
There are still feelings for each other but she is trying to tune them out or not focusing on it
Other relationship has put a hold on the marriage and made it rough and caused lots of unnecessary drama
I don’t believe they are really in love – it was just a different experience for her and she got caught up
She doesn’t leave you for him, and will see how much trouble she causes and will make a choice


Relationship is distant but W doesn’t want to close the distance
She doesn’t know if she wants to work on it (she is reluctant to tell you this)
She can’t put past behind her – she can’t see the forest through the trees
Everything is all mixed up for her
She is afraid of the past and that she will revisit it with you
Other Person (OP) is not the solution for her and not the person that she thinks he is
You are the one who is warm, caring, and wants to try and that is what she really wants and doesn’t see
She has been stuck in the past and can’t see through
She needs to calm down and look at herself.
She has created a mess and not a solution – she is looking for romance and attention.
When the two of you get together there is a tug of war


Final breakup is not happening
Her other relationship with OP is a bad relationship – he is very manipulative and she would not be happy (she knows this deep down)
Other relationship causes a lot of interference and impacts a lot of her ability to focus on marriage
She has the darker personality than you and has lots of emotions that she needs to work through
She needs to get a new perspective – she will or needs to get it through you
Deep down she doesn’t want to leave


She can’t find a way to rekindle her feelings for you
She has pushed aside her feelings for you – it is easier to run than work on it in her mind
OP isn’t going to maintain the excitement of the relationship
She loves you still and the feelings are just buried under a lot of resentment but not too far buried
She has been intimate with the OP (physical) but it wasn’t that great and they do much better verbally


The best thing to do is leave her alone right now
You have kept it together while she argues her position and is stubborn and tried to make you the decider
She is an unworkable partner right now and have you to do everything
This is/has/will be been hard on 2 of the kids (older ones?)
She doesn’t want a full partner right now
She needs to have her own peace and will go places to get away
She is disappointed about your impact on her financial situation and doesn’t want a man in the way of this
She is a spoiled brat
She expect a male to not let her get along with her attitude
She thinks she needs a break to take care of herself
She needs the OP to be right – she confides in him about you and the marriage. She hasn’t suggested or viewed him as a substitute.
This one (OP) needs to go
She is overwhelmed
She gets over this eventually
She is a basic needs person
Relationship is rocky but is not in trouble – problems are more of a symptom of her dissatisfaction with her life
There will be a new situation in the future and this current state will pass
Don’t give up on her the outlook is very good
She knows different and that divorce isn’t the answer
OP HAS to go – it is not a good situation and is hurting the marriage


There is something to salvage in the marriage
You were warned about problems with her and need to take your denial glasses off
She has changed a lot in the last 8 years and you may not recognize it
Harness the energy from this situation and achieve financially and be aggressive about your work
You can maintain your current situation with her but it is not healthy – something will need to change
There is disappointment coming from her soon
Her other relationship will end poorly. Right now it is cozy.
She is not going to get what she needs from him
People are seeing what they want to see in others
He (OP) appears to be young, or just acts young. He is a do-nothing guy. Not responsible. He will move on to his next challenge at some point.


She needs to say goodbye to him completely or you should pack it in
She needs to decide to work on the marriage or you should pack it in
She has to work with you on this.
It will not work out if she does not make changes and you will live a frustrating life with this woman
She can kid herself all she wants about this other guy but he will be an enormous disappointment to her - she won’t know or accept this until she realizes it herself (nobody can tell her)
He is more than happy to have relationships with married women and might prefer it
This guy will let her down in a big way
The relationship with him is not the answer for her and in her heart she probably knows
She doesn’t want to be married right now and wants freedom

Last edited by tryingtilDorR; 09/11/09 04:15 PM.

ME/XW:47
S21, D19, S15, S14
M:21 T:26
W moved 6/10 I filed 7/10 D final 4/12 remarried 8/12
W wants to R 12/10 and 4/11 but I decline