UPSIDE DOWN - still struggling, trying to detach

[Deep]

Indeed, it's not easy, that's why it's a "battle".

btw, what I posted, that was not meant to affect anyone negatively. I was just saying it as I saw it. I'm sure many on here will relate to the fact that a WAS can and will find fault with just about anything you can do. When there is an OP, they know it's wrong, but the pull is almost impossible to resist.

Justifying it internally is important to them, even if the logic is warped. "validating" them in the wrong way when they are about to cross lines with OP simply adds fuel to the way they want to think - that it is not their fault that you have been so bad/lacking in the M, look what you did to them, what suffering they went through, and how wonderful it is to meet someone who is there for them. When they're looking for excuses, this comes ready-made as an empowerment to take the next step ...

Not all the time of course, but it can happen ... it's such a hard line to straddle at times.