spoke to ex last night, he was picking son up to take to rugby training, needed sons passport to sign papers at rugby, so I took the passport out to him, I spoke and he asked how our hols went, I then turned to go in the house, he called me back and asked how my dad was, I again turned to go in the house, he called me back again to ask something else, all the time I was talking to him he looked so upset and sad with himself, I dont know what he as done but he definately didnt look a very happy bunny at all with his new life, also once he was at rugby with son he felt the need to phone me and ask me my name and address details etc for the form filling in which led to further conversation about nothing in particular, I get the feeling that ex isnt really happy at the moment and he wants to chat but doesnt really know what to chat about, maybe the guilt is setting in, I dont know I think that from now on unless he requests me to go chat I will not go outside when he is picking son up, I dont want to appear that I am desperate to talk to him, if he needs me he as my number and can call. felt sorry for him though seeing the sadness in his eyes spoke mountains, but at least we did have eye contact for a while and a few smiles out of him, poor man what a mess