Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
You have to stop following YOUR feelings and use your male logic and reasoning....
If you have been paying attention to some of the other men struggling, you will notice that it is the ones who seem paralyzed and can't seem to wipe their **tts
without asking someone on here what or how they should do it. That isn't very appealing to women and they can FEEL it without a word being said. Women are attuned to these things. Trust me on that.


You are making progress. Focus.

I definitely get what you are saying Gucci and I am 100% aligned. I get it. It's logical.

I've spend a good part of this long holiday weekend in thought. At least the time I had in between zip lines, camp fires, and the host of other camp activities with the kids smile

Basically my thoughts over the last week have gone darker and darker. Could be that I'm away from any spiritual practice for the last few weeks and haven't seen my PC for two weeks but....

I'm feeling more anger towards W now. I think I need a few days to gather my thoughts and maybe start a new thread.

I can't help but wonder how long does a person go on watching the person they love with another person before it destroys any ability to have a relationship even if W would want to reconcile? I guess I haven't thought much about that until now. I'm also very disgusted with the type of person W is with and that has caused me to lose a lot of respect for her.

Yes, I basically caused it but does that matter now? think she looks like a crappy partner for raising our kids. I feel like she's off with her high school stoner friends who have basically changed very little since they were in high school. She would say that I'm just judging people and that the kids are fine. I see plenty of evidence to the contrary.

Today, I feel like speeding this process up or just filing and going after custody. Am I just bitter? Is this normal? Any guidance?


AKA: "Ben the school teacher"
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Me:45, W:41 | Ds:10,12&14 | M:18, T:20
Me: MLC+PA+WAS+Separated 10/08
My Request to Reconcile Denied 7/09
W w/OM 6/09-11/09

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