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The discussions betweens God's plan and free will are very confusing.

I think of the conversion of St. Paul. I am no Biblical scholar, but if I recall correctly, Saul was on the way to harm Christians and God spoke to him. Changed his heart. His heart was not open. God opened it.

I have prayed for this miracle. It hasn't happened. Some other things that I have prayed for have happened though. Clear intervention. Amazing stuff.


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I pray daily for our marriage to be fully restored. It has not happened yet. But I also pray for the strength to go through this, and I am not a jiggling blob of jelly.
Saul was indeed on his way to persecute more Christians. That is what he did. But God did intervene, and as St. Paul, he became one of the greatest apostles.
I struggle a lot with God's will and free will as well. I will continue to struggle with it, I'm sure. I need to really trust in Him, and let him take this burden from me. But until I accept that it might not go the way I want it to go, I will continue to resist Him.


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Originally Posted By: Energizer Bunny
The discussions betweens God's plan and free will are very confusing.

I think of the conversion of St. Paul. I am no Biblical scholar, but if I recall correctly, Saul was on the way to harm Christians and God spoke to him. Changed his heart. His heart was not open. God opened it.

I have prayed for this miracle. It hasn't happened. Some other things that I have prayed for have happened though. Clear intervention. Amazing stuff.
Yeah, that's where it gets confusing and sometimes discouraging. Miracles happen out there to other people, but what about us? Where's our miracle? I don't have an answer, really, except that there are things we don't understand. Yep, God knocked Saul right on his a** (or was that off his a** of the donkey type?) and wouldn't we like to see the same happen to our wayward spouses?! I just keep hanging on this: Jeremiah 29:11 "'For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for good and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope.'" Someday we will understand more.


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Amen


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AGreed with above. It's not giving her a green light. It's more a feeling inside yourself that you know you can't change her or stop her.

You can still fight for your marriage, but only by changing yourself. It's an inner perspective, not what one says or doesn't say.


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She just sent me an E-mail. She said she hopes my day is going OK and that she needs a copy of my check stub for paying quarterly taxes (she has a small business).

I typed a response that I hoped her day was OK too and that I would support whatever she felt she had to do. I deleted the second part and just left it at I hoped her day was OK too.

I need to tell her that I accept her decision, but I want to wait until tomorrow. Even that seems like it would come off as nedy today. Like I was saying that just to get her to change her mind.


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I am wondering if I should give her what she wants by telling her that I got a new bank account yesterday, telling her that I am taking her name off of the household stuff, asking her how she's planning on working the car, upside-down equity on the house, etc situations.

Kind of a sh*t or get off the pot thing.

Does that make it more real or just make me a jerk?


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Thoughts on above anyone?


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I am wondering if I should give her what she wants by telling her that I got a new bank account yesterday, telling her that I am taking her name off of the household stuff, asking her how she's planning on working the car, upside-down equity on the house, etc situations.


You TCB for you.

"Wife I opened a bank account for me and transferred half of our cash into it. I am getting your name of all the household assets. I need you to get your car in your name and you need to handle your insurance. Here's the deal with the house we owe this much on the mortgage and we will net this much when we sell it, we both get (lose) this out of the sale. ...... Medical Insurance, School tuition/bills, sports/music for the kids, taxes, Christmas decorations, photographs, artwork, music collections, the pets, That pretty much covers that side of it.

yes make it real, make her ffffffeeeeeellllll all of it. Make sure you understands it is her choice and you are open to a reconciliation.


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EB,

Just checking in on you. How are you?

Great advice, as always, from Coach by the way.


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