d1 I have gone through that, blow ups at 3am, woke her up on several occasions frustrated, on and on. the only thing it does is give her more power over you. Do not pursue her.

I know you may not feel like it but you should be going out one night a week also, stay out till 4am, hell 5am, leave her with the kids. What’s good for the goose...you know ...

Do you work out? that really helped me, also hobbies and friends you need to pull this power away from her.
Let her feel it gone and I think you will see a change.

The retro thing is really good from what I hear.
The problem is that with you wanting to go, I guess it is pursuing but maybe in this case it is worth it.

If it were me, just me, I am not saying to do this, just trying to give you an example of the attitude you need. After you start going out (gal'ing) tell her that you changed your mind about retro. I would tell her that you don’t feel like going right now. maybe later if she wants to.... that may get her attention I don’t know.

Last edited by theroadback; 09/01/09 10:08 PM.