That sounds ok until you apply it to something like, both parents choosing to work minimum wage and follow their Hollywood dreams of stardom to the considerable physical and scholastic detriment of their kidlets because they want to model "being true to themselves".
Indeed, indeed, as I posted re: @Greek, this is precisely why it's worth pondering. What is the correct / appropriate / decisive ratio of self:other, selfless:selfish, etc.?
At what point does selflessness become martyrdom? And what of that query? It's easy for Studly Paragon of He-Manliness to pose, what with his virtual har-eem of She-Studs from Hardbody Gym hanging on his every rep. But for those who ascended the heights of Mount Parenthood? A different thang altogether.
(One should never assume that SP's willingness to ponder a Thing is synonymous with Approval of Thing....)
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The way I see it (considering you have no religious scruples trapping you in your m), your wife's status as the mother of your children is a substantial weight on the one side of the scale. Not the whole scale.
Indeed, indeed, although as Studly also pointed out -- correctly, in my estimation -- that status doesn't change upon D (her argument in a nutshell). So I guess for further pondering, I would pose this question (appropriate, zum Beispiel, to @aliveandkicking's sitch) -- To what extent does / should / can / ought one "defer" to WAS's status as Parent? Does Parent trump Walkaway in the post-Bomb recomputation of accounts payable and receivable?
Posted by: robx Planning sex or other similar activities may sound boring but it turns out that people who do this have more satisfying sex lives than people who have spontaneous sex....
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Posted by: aliveandkicking Point taken. But it doesn't seem to have worked for SP and his W.
True, alive, but we never really committed to it. And by "we" I mean "her" -- lots of excuses: Aunt Flo, tired, have to prep for work, worn out from gym, can we switch to tomorrow, I want to catch up on TiVo, it's too late (a perennial favorite -- had to get upstairs before 9:00 p.m. else "too late").
But then this was the woman who declared -- well before the bomb -- that if she had to choose between an extra hour's sleep and an hour's sex, she'd choose the hour of sleep every day of the week and twice on Sunday. It's not the scheduling that failed, it was the keeping-to-the-scheduling.
And with respect to (I think) @Kett, what was boring wasn't the "us" -- it was the "Smiley's Person." That was made quite clear in post-ugh discussion.
Indeed, indeed, although as Studly also pointed out -- correctly, in my estimation -- that status doesn't change upon D (her argument in a nutshell). So I guess for further pondering, I would pose this question (appropriate, zum Beispiel, to @aliveandkicking's sitch) -- To what extent does / should / can / ought one "defer" to WAS's status as Parent? Does Parent trump Walkaway in the post-Bomb recomputation of accounts payable and receivable?
Hell, I barely understood that but, my thoughts exactly.
Hell, I barely understood that but, my thoughts exactly.
I'll beg the court's indulgence due to fatigue (5 miles today) and if it weren't for waiting for El Washing Machineo I'd be long a'bed.
Should Monsoor's (Mrs. SP's) undeniable status as Parent of your (my) kids somehow trump Mrs. SP's (Monsoor's) status as Walkaway? In other words, do you (I) give him/her a pass (or extra credit or an "A" for effort or whatever) for the sake of the kids, or do we hold our Walkaways to A (the?) Standard?
IOW: Okay, you hurt me, you dumped me, you insulted me, you disrespected me, you tossed me aside, you love me but you're not in love with me, you don't think of me that way, you're with someone else, you tell me to "just get over it" and "move on" and "deal," you mess up my finances, you upset my apple-cart, you up-end my world, you devastate my chldren .... but you're also Dad/Mom, so I guess we'll call it even.
Well, I kind of meant that as a joke.... but it IS a reveal about me. After all, I put up with it for well-nigh 16 years, didn't I? I mean, voluntarily went without what certainly ranks among my top 3 events in the Bedtime Olympics, meekly submitting to WAW's threat that if I ever brought it up again I'd regret it?
What kind of man does that (as you can see, I'm channeling @robx there)? So what if I valued my M in its entirety more than my personal sexual happiness? Look what it got me!
Oh. Wait. Never mind. It got me Jack Effin' Sh*t! So yeah -- it's a reveal about me.
Quote: Posted by: aliveandkicking Point taken. But it doesn't seem to have worked for SP and his W.
True, alive, but we never really committed to it. And by "we" I mean "her" -- lots of excuses: Aunt Flo, tired, have to prep for work, worn out from gym, can we switch to tomorrow, I want to catch up on TiVo, it's too late (a perennial favorite -- had to get upstairs before 9:00 p.m. else "too late").
I really phrased that wrong, I doubt it was the schedule that was the problem...I just think that scheduling and spontaneity in a healthy marriage would both be desirable. And I get that you didn't stick to it anyway.
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But then this was the woman who declared -- well before the bomb -- that if she had to choose between an extra hour's sleep and an hour's sex, she'd choose the hour of sleep every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I was there. Was awful. I actually thought if I never had sex again it would be just fine. I don't feel that way now, no way.
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And with respect to (I think) @Kett, what was boring wasn't the "us" -- it was the "Smiley's Person." That was made quite clear in post-ugh discussion.
Well, you were the most likely suspect. Has nothing to do with now.
Well, I kind of meant that as a joke.... but it IS a reveal about me. After all, I put up with it for well-nigh 16 years, didn't I? I mean, voluntarily went without what certainly ranks among my top 3 events in the Bedtime Olympics, meekly submitting to WAW's threat that if I ever brought it up again I'd regret it?
What kind of man does that (as you can see, I'm channeling @robx there)? So what if I valued my M in its entirety more than my personal sexual happiness? Look what it got me!
Oh. Wait. Never mind. It got me Jack Effin' Sh*t! So yeah -- it's a reveal about me.
Well, everyone has their things...I had to warn H to stop asking for the ole back door entry...(there, I'm humiliating myself to be in communion with you)...he never did stop asking though or trying to convince me that some woman he knew way back when from some exotic country "said it was the best"...anyhoo.
