@Kett --

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(to repeat myself) What did you think when she said the ugh boring during foreplay? What did you say/do? Why?


I rolled back to my side of the bed. Stared at the ceiling a bit. And said, "Okay, what is it I should be doing?" And when she did the "I didn't mean...." thing, I said something to the effect of, "No, it's alright, I mean if you're not happy then you should be able to tell me. I wish you'd timed it better, but..." And so she specified some business, and I proceeded to do the business, but the fact was that neither of us was into it at that point -- I mean, it seemed sort of phony -- and both of us could sense it, and so it just sort of meandered off into a mutual (and mutually unsatisfied) "well, goodnight."

And that was the last time we were ever together.

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What did you think when you got the lackluster response to your anniversary gestures? What did you say/do? Why?


I said it was okay, I understood she was busy. I mean, it's not like it was the first time. And what was I going to do? Make a scene in a restaurant? Stalk off in anger? It's what she did the last few years. I kept up my end in the Symbolic Recognition Department, and she didn't. It was what it was.

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with no intention of attributing evil... don't forget that FFF has a horse in this race too.


Maybe. And maybe I'm naive (though I don't think so). But we've had very honest conversations about each other's M's and D's. I think the question is a good one. It's certainly not one anyone else -- well, except maybe @robx -- has asked. "What's in it for you?" I mean, we all do this, right? "I want to save my marriage!" Look at how many newbie threads start with that as the topic name. But why? Oh, that's a dicey question, indeed.