"I will start the journey. Hell, I thought I already have. Clearly, I haven't. As you can tell, I am ready for the journey to be over. I guess paientence has never been a virutue for me. My sons and yes her are the ones that make me want to continue. No matter how horrible she has treated me, how many mean things she has said to me. I have to continue the fight.

The question I posed with Jimbo and you Beginner, is how long is long enough. How long before we have to move on. I don't just mean let them go. I get that is the part of detaching for us. I mean finding hapiness for us. We can all tell ourselves we are happy and moving on without our spouses and let the chips fall where they may. But aren't you missing that piece of yourself that needs that closeness with another person.

We are doing all these things(and I will do them and put in the work), but hell at what point do we look in the mirror and say we deserve better than the way we have been treated. We can only be walked on for so long until we have to say you are not worth it....I deserve to be happy with someone else."

Gosh, I do hope you get more answers to your comments D, which I`ve quoted here.

I too-despite dbing since April and living with crap for at least two years-am not getting the results I`ve hoped for.

Glad you went to the fundraiser though. You had fun for You. Which is what a lot of the dbing is about for me at any rate. It really does push us to make ourselves happy. It really helps heal our wounds from our current relationship and that should lead us to be in a stronger position should we decide to move on.

Hmmmm, not a very hopeful post regarding your current situation. But like you, I`m finding this limbo lark so difficult to take.