stuck808, oldtimer,whatdidido

Thanks. I really did not want to post today..(Thanks yoyo for the E-mail)

OLDTIMER… I expected you to jump all over my case…

Whatdidido.. Thanks



Stuck808,

My wife has not really been in a happy mood for a long time. Her family has tried to get her to go see a doctor about maybe taking some AD meds but she refuses, she also has a very low self esteem. But there are good times also…

“Sorry you are hurting. Try to relax a bit, and don't make any decisions. You are swinging wildly. And, it would be false to say that W doesn't want to be married. She has told you quite clearly that she wants to remain married.

Yes,Yes ,Yes.. Maybe I am going through menopause. I was trying to be aggressive like you have been telling me but I don’t want to “force myself” on anyone.

“As for your efforts with W, I can't really comment as you didn't explain what you meant by "tried to fool around."
If you are referring to something I wrote awhile back about me. It was not intentional. I was at a party and had been drinking and so was this woman and she wanted me to go “hot tubing with her. And I was going to go but “chickened out” last minute...



But, I do question your timing. W seems to very much like relaxing to her soaps, it seems to be her nightly ritual. So, if you are trying to choose your time wisely, soap time is probably not the best time. Your reactiveness here isn't going to help things.
Ya again you are right.. But timing is difficult in this house with a 12 yo running around. Don’t worry I will not do anything I can’t “take back”….or “Undo”


Detachment is good. Indeed, as I've said before, it is essential for true intimacy. Passionate Marriage is really worth a look.
I have not given up… I do feel I kind of took a few steps backwards though.

So OT Do I comment on what has transpired these last two days or just get back on track. I almost went out and bought flowers today while wife was out but I am so confused (AGIAN)

OT I wish you lived close by so we could talk face to face over a drink. You wouldn’t happen to be in the Washington state area in a few weeks will ya????

Today was a good day also. This morning I was out cutting wood and W called me on the phone all excited because my picture was in the local news paper for the reserve work I do. We had a DUI check point Friday and the paper caught me in the background doing a sobriety test on a motorist.
When I got home we were back to talking normal again……Actually W is at her Gym right now. First time in months. It pains me to always hear her talk about “being fat” (I don’t think she is fat) but never does anything about it

For what is is worth My Horisccpe for today…


You are quite reserved today, yet your highest hopes might still be pinned to a shooting star that's on its way up. Your current intensity is tied to your positive attitude, yet you can be overly dramatic when you finally tell your story. But don't get tricked into believing that everything needs to come out in the open today. It's a process and if you do it gradually, it will be easier on everyone involved.


And if I claim to be a wise man, well
It surely means that I don't know