"the old revenge/threats of physical violence thing is pretty unattractive"
Ya know OT I would never threaten anyone with physical violence. I would not even what to let any of his family know what an a$$ he is. It would only hurt them not him. It may sound weird to everyone but I would be completely satisfied showing up at his store and just saying "Hi how’s the wife and kids?" That’s it nothing more.
What is PM?
BTW I am planning on seeing my old buddy. I need this road trip. But what I do when I get there is up in the air.. I mean what could happen in a week? That’s how long my buddy wants me to stay.. Ya know sit around the BBQ drinking beer..
And if I claim to be a wise man, well It surely means that I don't know
"Ya know OT I would never threaten anyone with physical violence"
Well that's a relief, lol. Just a pet peeve of mine -- how in movies the nice-guy hero always has to punch someone out at the end of the movie to be a real man (a la Brigit Jones, for instance....)
PM = Passionate Marriage
If you haven't read it, you might find it very enlightening...
Have fun on the road trip, and don't roast your weenie on the BBQ.
Better yet... I don't think he knows what I look like.(unless W showed him a pic...do cheating spouses do those things???) Anyway I could pull out the pic of him in his Speedos and pick hair dye (with my wife’s side cut off) and ask him if he knows this guy that I am looking for him..
You may be right OT.. Tonight when I was talking to W I told her my itinerary for tomorrow..
Me: I need to get up about 6:00am and go stack fire wood. Then I will probably be all sweaty so I am coming home before I go to Santa Rosa and take a shower...If you hadn't taken yours yet we can take it together to save water.
W: (laughed)
I would try it OT but W is NOT a morning person…..Maybe later that day when I get back for working some more at the wood pile I can tell her I am going to take another shower and I can ask her if she can come scrub my back?
And if I claim to be a wise man, well It surely means that I don't know
"Maybe later that day when I get back for working some more at the wood pile I can tell her I am going to take another shower and I can ask her if she can come scrub my back?"
ARRGGGHHH... Banging head against the wall. I halfway wonder if you are kidding and halfway fear that you are not.
I want you to imagine trying to make one of the women you are fantasizing about want you. Would you use that strategy? "Hey baby, come over here and make me feel good." "Oh yeah hoochie mama, come get some of THIS."
Or, would you instead try to seduce her? Focus on making her horny, on pleasing her?
The best way to get a woman interested sexually is not to ask her for sexual favors for yourself, but to turn her on. Be hot, take charge sexually, give her a few Os that have nothing to do with you "finishing", be sexual, talk dirty to her, tell her how she turns you on, give her space to enjoy sex and orgasms without it being about you finally getting some...
And, if you are saying, "but but but she is the one who OWES me... she is the one who screwed around... she is the one who has to put out for ME...." then YOU are the one who is not letting go of the past, the one who is letting the past prevent you from having a healthy sex life.
You keep saying in different posts that you have let go of the OM so to speak but, you keep brining up this and other issues so obviously you still need to work on getting past it. It is like you are still punishing W. It really does sound like you think she owes it to you.
OT COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are speaking to your W in your LL. Try speaking to her in hers. Woo her as if you first met her and want to spend more time with her. START FRESH. ROMANCE ROMANCE ROMANCE!
My H sounds just like you thats his LL. It turns me off a lot. It makes me feel like thats the only reason he wants me there. I need for him to ROMANCE me and plan on telling him that as this is an issue that is bugging me as of late.
Sorry if it sounds harsh but, I think you need to hear it.
JAK
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You don't get to choose how you're going to die. Or when, you can only decide how you're going to live now. ~Joan Baez
For once, I see your point. (There's a first time for everything, I guess. LOL.)
Doc,
as the others are saying, you've got to woo her. And the way to do that is to understand her LL. Whatever that is. Sometimes they're so darn coy about what really pleases them and what they really want, I'll be the first one to admit, and it makes for great difficulty in finding out what "frequency" their radio is tuned to. With some it takes the patience of a saint to figure anything out, and even then there are no guarantees.
(Why, oh, why, ladies, does it have to be so?!?)
But you have the patience of a whole boatload of saints, so I know you're more than capable.
Romance is nice, sure. And we girls are only supposed to like soft porn that doesn't show any more sex than daytime soaps.
Ok, really, romance is great, but I'm all for adding that to S E X that is all about her orgasms.
Start with a great kiss that will make her knees weak. Turn her head to yours, kiss her thorougly, hold the back of her head... Take a nice a walk and pause to look at the moon, then push her up against the wall and kiss her while putting a bit of pressure between her legs with your thigh. Try to make her O on the street. Squeeze a butt cheek low toward the vaginal area and nibble the back of her neck. Make it clear that this does something for you so that she feels desired.
"Me: I need to get up about 6:00am and go stack fire wood. Then I will probably be all sweaty so I am coming home before I go to Santa Rosa and take a shower...If you hadn't taken yours yet we can take it together to save water.
W: (laughed)"
Better.... No talk. Direct, masculine, action.
Come home after stacking wood (ironic, lol). Take action. Get W into the shower. "You will get into the shower now so I can wash your hair and you can smell my phermones." Wash her head with a head massage, soap her up well, massage her buttocks very thoroughly veering well into the cleft, soap up her legs, soap up her feet, gently massaging each toe, hug her letting her feel your erection on her hip, rinse yourself off, give her a slap on the butt and step out of the steamy shower to get on with your day, leaving her to wonder what happened...
