yeah, hold off on the flowers. I was thinking 180's but that might be much right now.

The text back was good. It's not a sign or anything to be read in to. You sent her a text, she responded.

Counseling. Maybe wait to ask her about it and maybe got to Individual Counseling first (IC). If that goes well and maybe if she sees some positive changes in you you could ask then. Asking the WAS about counseling is a crap shoot. You see some who agree without much resistance and others who are resistant as hell. Mine still won't go.

I think family night is great esp. with such young kids. I know others may disagree, but I think family night is a good time to laugh and be neutral and it shows two people who can put their family first. I think it can lead to putting each other first which should be a goal of yours. My H and I were in pretty good contact the whole time we've been separated but family night was a good time for us because we both focused on S which I think took pressure off of him knowing that I was not going to start conversations about us, I was going to concentrate on making sure we all had fun. It worked pretty well for me, so I like to suggest it to those folks with kids. And while your kids are young, don't underestimate the 2 year olds ability to sense something is off.


M-34/H-35/S-4
Bomb-11-08
OW confirmed 12-08-OW ends 6-09
D finalized 4-10
Stronger=Happy