[quote=robx] LOL. Oh, thank you, big masculine man for telling addled little me what the truth is about what women "really want." I can't admit I want a man to take me. Is that it? Thanks.
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And if we don't want to admit that physical affairs are happening and that women & men are cheating on their respective spouses with other people and having sex, the kind of sex that is initiated without the fear of rejection, the kind of sex which is lustful & passionate & physical vs. the "same old boring routine", than you're not admitting what is actually happening in real life.
Hmmm....well, been there, done that, got a scarlet letter t-shirt in real life. I'd say you have tunnel vision about what is going on in affairs.
Your response shows your insecurity if you know it or not. Which is unfortunate for you, I'm not affected either way.
As far as "been there done that", were you the one that initiated the affair or was it your spouse? Would being honest & direct have helped in that situation if one you weren't getting your needs met or was it more satisfying to experience the dishonesty & lying which accompanied the physical affair?
lmao....the entire last page is an example of your gaslighting, circular reasoning, word twisting, etc etc. (ex. saying I'm the one who says I blow up, when I was responding to you saying it first...nice try)
You want to know about me, you can read my threads. My life has been a living hell for the last several years as anyone who has followed my sitch knows. I made a bad situation worse, and I've said so. My point was that I have personal experience in what WAW's think and do and what verbally and emotionally abusive husbands think and do and what psychopathic online predators think and do. (One thing they do is read stupid websites like the Art Of Seduction to come up with ideas like how to massage your way into sex with someone who is resistant.)
+100 to everything aliveandkicking said...especially that we're talking about broken marriages here, not intact ones.
And Orich and whomeever else is reading, check for my updates later (I don't have time right now) because I can tell you guys about the hot sex my H HAS been getting since he started treating me like a human being instead of his personal possession.
My goodness, you certainly have a bit of anger & steam to vent off today, LOL! I won't take it personally though because I really don't know you personally.
I may know a bit about emotionally & verbally abusive spouses, I won't say "husbands" as I believe that this description can be applied to both husbands & wives. As for the online predator label, I don't know who you would be referring to so I don't know why you even included that reference along with that website of which i have no knowledge or affiliation - since you have knowledge of these things, I'll leave it up to everyone else to make their own conclusions.
You certainly sound angry and if you aren't then you certainly have me confused.
As far as being a walk away wife, if that is your experience, I can't judge you for those actions or what you did to make your own situation worse - you aren't my wife, it isn't my life that was affected by your actions and it isn't my place to judge either way.
The main point I made regardless if you can see it or not was telling Orich that sleeping in the same bed as his wife for several months without having any physical contact with her for fear of "showing that he is pursuing" has yielded him.... NADA!!! That's right, he has several months of nothing to show for it because he is afraid that it shows pursuing. Heaven forbid that he shows interest in his wife of ALL PEOPLE! Heaven forbid that he shows sexual interest in his wife, that he is still attracted to her. You are right breakaway, he shouldn't offer her any type of indication that he is interested in his WIFE. He should continue sleeping in the same bed next to her for the next several months and possibly through divine intervention, his wife will just jump his bones and they'll be perfect & happy all over again.
Is he dating another woman? Is he sleeping with other women? Is he picking up women at clubs? Why you brought up that website is beyond me? I told Orich because he dropped by tristan's thread and asked a question and I told him to show his wife that he is physically attracted to her and to not take rejection personally and to offer her things like a backrub or footrub if she didn't want to have sex. But I guess that would be a bad thing, to show his wife he is interested in her because after several months of doing nothing and not pursuing, he has certainly bridged the emotional connection with his wife and they're doing great.
Yes heaven help us all that we can't be honest with the people we love and tell them we're physically attracted to them and want to be physically intimate with them.
Yes being honest & direct is a bad thing - you're right... it doesn't show confidence.
We should all be dishonest & lie to get what we want because look how well it's worked thus far, I mean the affairs were great while they lasted and we didn't mind lying to our spouses and sneaking around their backs to get our physical needs met because heaven forbid we communicated directly what we wanted from our spouses instead of assuming they're mind readers.
Well I won't play that game: I will be honest & direct along with being emotionally sensitive but I won't lie to get what I want because I know I can get what I want by being honest.
Breakaway, I'll be honest with you, you sound very bitter with your responses directed towards me, it's like I've touched a sensitive nerve, I don't know what your situation is and what happened in it to make you feel this way specifically to anonymous people on the internet but in my opinion, I don't think it's good and you have alot of personal issues to resolve. I still stand behind my ideas and posts to Orich, several months of doing nothing have yielded nothing in his situation and it's time to change it up to get different results and it's quite possible she wants him to show interest in her but she doesn't want to tell him that, maybe she wants him to discover that, maybe she wants to be wanted and currently isn't getting anything like that from orich.
FYI - I actually tried to read some of your posts but the links in your signature seem to be broken, I can't get to the original post you originally submitted which has your original situation and what happened.
Tristan my apologies for hijacking your thread here, this seems to have turned into a playground for a few of us and I'm sure you didn't get anything productive out of our posts.
