Hello Kittyfish & Sandi2!

[BigJohn]

Go and get your kids. They are YOUR kids not just hers. YOU know they are not in a good environment. Go and protect them.

Let your W fall on her own. That is HER decision.

Stuck/Sandi,

Thank you for your concern and your posts. I started planning right after my last post. I am leaving first thing tomorrow to get my kids. I will arrive unannounced but well prepared. I made it very clear to my W early on in the sitch that it is one thing for me to endure and be patient with the pain she is bringing me with her EA, but our kids are sacred. I will not tolerate behavior from her that hurts them. She and our MR are expendable where the kids are concerned, as am I.

I am going to my in-laws tomorrow as a father first, then a husband. I plan on packing up the car and the kids and driving home. It will definitely be interesting. I suppose my W may get enough sense knocked into her that she may wish to join us. If she does, I will be tempted to put conditions on returning home with us. But I suspect that ultimately she will choose to stay as she is too far gone now- it'll be like trying to pull an addict away from a pile of cocaine. Plus 14 hours in the car with me on the drive home- I don't see it happening.

I may check back in before I leave. Thanks again.