I really think that they believe some of these things. It is just where they are.

But it is interesting that they say we cannot change when THEY have changed so much. On a tangent here (kinda), but what do you do when someone tells you that you CANNOT do something. Prove em wrong or continue to do the things that prove em right?

MaryEL - depending on the facts of the sitch good DB would tell us to accept their feelings by saying something like "I am sorry you feel that way but that is not how I see it" and by giving space for them to evaluate and rethink without pressure (NOT pursuing, begging crying etc). What did most of us do? Pursue, beg, cry.


Can't keep a good woman down