ellie - thank you so much for coming by my thread!!! it is SO FUNNY that you mentioned the pheremones because i have actually looked into them, but like you felt a little STRANGE and silly to even venture into that department. but hearing they MIGHT have worked is enough for me to give it a try! LOL - thanks for the suggestion of perfume. i have actually been looking for something new because i have tired of the anne klien ii that i have used for YEARS and i think a shake up is needed - please visit ANYTIME!!!!

t2 - the "touching" has definitely started, especially since our conversation about 10 days ago where i asked him if he could be more affectionate and he said he could. maybe i am just trying to rush things. but like ellie said, i could try it and monitor the results. i am guessing that i am feeling a little rejection and i don't like that feeling.

but your thoughts on
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It seems in many ways that they don't initiate touch because THEY feel dirty from what they've done and crazy as it sounds they are hesitant to touch us with their self perceived "unclean hands"



i believe is SO ON THE MONEY. i really feel that he is loathing himself.

let me tell you all something kinda comical. my hubby for the last two weeks has been dealing with bladder troubles. he was at the dr twice and they couldn't find an infection but on sunday he actually passed a stone. when my hubby called his parents to let him know what happened, his father got on the phone and told him to right away go to the hospital and get his "thing" checked out cause that could really damage the "goods"

my husband told me what his dad said and then he said to me "i actually hope it IS damaged because it has gotten me into more trouble than i care to even think about"

i had to laugh inside, i didn't outside. he is now at the point that he is blaming his "thing" for his unappropriate behaivor - men (sorry guys)

but see, his view of sex is REALLY warped right now. he feels his entire life he has been lead around by his "thing" and he doesn't need to use it anymore. not even with his wife. to him, it's nasty and dirty.

is that warped or what?

gosh, i can't even believe i am sharing this with you all!!!!

is there hope for this man????

ugh, kitti