Steve, Well that is why I ask. I hadn't really known if that might be what it is or not. As far as talking, there is not a lot of choice with the child sitch we have. It's not just phone or text, I see her everyday, so I do my best to keep it civil. If I could go dark, I would. And I guess maybe I could cut back on the talking, but we are working our our own D filings and if I don't keep it civil, then we will end up with L's and then $h*t will hit the fan, and I don't see that being a good thing. Plus I feel that if L's get involved, not only will all our money disappear, she will want and probably get more than she is even asking for now.