Being Me and Forward, thankyou for your replies. I do feel I have done the right thing in this, but who knows. I have totally done this for my son and I suppose in a way for his dad, I just felt that after 2 1/2 years things were not going to improve between them at all because they were like two bulls in separate corners, I feel it as gone on too long and without my intervention nothing was going to spark between them, I think they were both afraid of contacting each other in case of rejection, and also ex as admitted to me that he was afraid of this and that he didnt know how to contact son without coming through me, in a way I suppose he was afraid of how I would react to him contacting me also, I have not done this for me I never expect a relationship with ex again now, but I am at a place where I am willing to talk with ex regarding son and am willing to be a friend should he ever needs one. like I say zero expectations on my behalf but do hope dad and son can pull through this, although son will never ever forget what he has been put through, i hope he can put it on one side and have a realationship with his father, x