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Tomato #1799273 07/12/09 02:09 AM
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Hi cb, Tomato

Thanks for the kind words.

I am having a good weekend.

I didn't realise that it has been so long since I posted. I do keep up with reading the various sitches, though. CB,you are getting out and meeting neighbours etc. That is good. Was glad to read about your conference as well.

Brief update - I cannot believe the extent to which I "let go/detached" in the past few weeks. If anyone had told me that it was possible, I would have said that they were crazy. I think it is because I keep my eyes on God and not my sitch. I can't claim that I never get down and depressed but it doesn't last longer than a day at most and I manage to pick myself up. Usually through prayer.Lots and lots of it. My mantra is that I am moving towards something better and this is just a temporary state of affairs. That thought usually helps me.

And here's the thing. H and I are re-establising our friendship and every day it is getting stronger. I think that by letting go and letting God friendship was let back into the equation. I am keeping up my GAL activities and enjoying life as best as I can.

And that's it for now...


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kara #1805989 07/22/09 03:51 AM
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Hey Kara!

Hope all is going well!


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Kenn #1812427 08/03/09 03:07 PM
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Hey Kenn

Hope you are great. I was off the board for a while...kidnapped by aliens. They sent me back:)

I realised that DB can and does work!

Having said that , DB will mean different things to different people. For me,DB can be a lot like letting go and letting God. In both, you take your eyes off the sitch and put them elsewhere (in my case on God). You GAL, you work on yourself,you detach (for me by giving it to God). Of course,for me it also means praying constantly. Here is how I have seen this work:

- When I truly detach, H WILL respond and seek me out. This happened a few months ago after two weeks of "going dark". A complete 180 for me. I initiated no contact execpt for one business related matter. H's behaviour was greatly improved after this. After a little while, we started interacting like old friends again. The thing is not to become too eager and to just let things evolve.

- When I give him space and go about my own activites and immerse myself in life, his interest is aroused. When I am busy and out of the house, he is suddenly less busy and at home when I return from a night out with the girls. Human beings do not like to feel unwanted even if they think that they do not want you.

- When I ask or demand nothing, he will start to do little favours for me. By contrast when I start to feel like we have reached a stage where I can perhaps ask for something, he will do it but back off a little.

- Smile even when things annoy the hell out of you. Water off a duck's back. Human beings think that they know our trigger points and we satisfy them when we act as expected. When you say or do little they do not know what you are thinking and this bothers them no end.

Oh, it is a painstaking dance to be sure! And I had a few challenges thes past two weeks where I said some things that I felt needed to be said. I said hard things softly and with as much love as I could. H's reaction was to pull back from being friendly. And that is where it is right now.

At the end of the day I realise that we need to treat our S with compassion. Some of them are terribly confused and let us face it, their lives are NOT happy now, no matter how they try to convince themselves otherwise. They are also in no mental shape to offer anything meaningful to anyone else until they can work through what it is that they are working through.

Some of them are are chasing dreams/shadows and where will it get them? Real life is working through real love and real problems. Not waving a magic wand and getting an imaginary new life. What does for better or for worse mean? There will be worse at some point in time. You have to man up or woman up and deal with it.

So, acting with compassion but not being a doormat. Saying hard things softly if they really need to be said. Saying little when I don't trust myself to say things well. Giving space. Being patient. Giving it to God! Keeping my eyes on the prize. That's what I am doing...


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kara #1812430 08/03/09 03:14 PM
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Kara,

You are living proof that you DON'T need to post 10,000 to have some very wise words to share with one and all.

Copied and pasted on my iPhone.

Many many thanks for giving me a boost when I most needed it.

Cheers

Mac

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Originally Posted By: kara



At the end of the day I realise that we need to treat our S with compassion. Some of them are terribly confused and let us face it, their lives are NOT happy now, no matter how they try to convince themselves otherwise. They are also in no mental shape to offer anything meaningful to anyone else until they can work through what it is that they are working through.

Some of them are are chasing dreams/shadows and where will it get them? Real life is working through real love and real problems. Not waving a magic wand and getting an imaginary new life. What does for better or for worse mean? There will be worse at some point in time. You have to man up or woman up and deal with it.

So, acting with compassion but not being a doormat. Saying hard things softly if they really need to be said. Saying little when I don't trust myself to say things well. Giving space. Being patient. Giving it to God! Keeping my eyes on the prize. That's what I am doing...



This is really good stuff, Kara! I agree wholeheartedly! Thanks for the awesome reminders!


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.
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Hi mac-ct, antlers. Hope you are both well.I was just jotting down some thoughts and glad if you find them helpful.

If we retain our compassion, grace and dignity we are on the winning side of this epic battle. We begin to lose when we get petty, angry, bitter and disenchanted with life.

Ii just occured to me that some of MLC/WAS behaviour can appear to be very attention seeking. That is a simplistic way of looking at a complex issue but on some level it may be true "Look at me. See what I am doing now. I am acting like a toddler or a teenager" Do. Not. Look. Or if you look keep your eye on your prize and say nothing. That seems to take the wind out of their sails a little.


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kara #1812463 08/03/09 04:22 PM
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If we retain our compassion, grace and dignity we are on the winning side of this epic battle. We begin to lose when we get petty, angry, bitter and disenchanted with life.



Wow! More good stuff! I'm real big on compassion, and it's healing power, too!


"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." - William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830's.
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Hi Kara...

What a strong, wonderful, inspiring woman you are...

I am thankful I came over here to read your posts!

I looked back on some of my posts when I first started and I question who was that person?

I am no longer that woman...

I now put my faith first and everything else second....

There are days I feel like I have been in prayer the entire day and there are other days when I actually don't think about the sitch...

Such a different person from the one who could barely breathe without crying...

Like you I to have bad days...

Sometimes horribly depressing days however I always come through it...

It may be by prayer...

It may be by prayer as well as coming here and letting Puppy, Mac, Alex, Ash etc...guide me...

I carry a journal and I also have one at home...

I try to read something out of my Bible daily but I need to work on that...

I will survive this...

I have faith that we will all survive this smile


May All Who Seek To Take My Life
Be Put To Shame And Confusion;
May All Who Desire My Ruin
Be Turned Back In Disgrace.
~Psalm 40:14~
Serenity13 #1812638 08/03/09 08:46 PM
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Thanks for the amazing post. It was so timely for a situation I am trying to deal with, with my H. I think it gave me some wonderful guidance. Thank you.

You are very inspiring!

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Hey Kara...

I just went to your other post - It was fantastic so I added to it...

Couldn't think of anything for X or Z though smile


May All Who Seek To Take My Life
Be Put To Shame And Confusion;
May All Who Desire My Ruin
Be Turned Back In Disgrace.
~Psalm 40:14~
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