Originally Posted By: CityGirl


If you expect nothing then why are you *still* wondering if she is thinking about you or remembers or cares? IMO that shows you still do have expectations; not so much in her words or actions but you have expectations about her thoughts.


Ok CityGirl, we got your point. Back off a little for one stinking second. I get it that we are all trying to help Kevin and help him get stronger.

But, by golly, if you keep slapping someone's hand to get them to do / not do something then they only learn to do it to not get slapped. We are trying to make lasting changes in ourselves and we do not get it at the same rate.

I am sorry if this catches you off guard. But, honestly, it isn't very helpful to dissect everything Kevin does or says with I told you so.

I push him, I encourage, but everything has to happen in moderation.

In my never to be humble opinion, there are times that we have to vent. Kevin included.

We do ultimately have to be detached, but if he wants to vent and he can't do it here, then he is welcome to come to my thread and vent his head off.


Me 45, H 46, S 23, M 26, Together 30, Bomb 6-2-08,
S 6-19-08; H left 12-29-08. H home 12-09, Still MLC in 2012!
Me- I have my big girl panties on. Bring it.