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fisherman #1811299 07/31/09 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: trapt
I don't know.

I feel so torn I guess. I can't describe it.

Yeah, I should be happy. I don't know what's wrong with me right now.

There is no anger, none. That's not it.

I have never felt this way before.

I wish I could tell you or at least describe it better to see if anyone that has been here before has ever felt the same way.

I just can't.


Hmmmm...let me take a wild shot in the dark here.

You're feeling.....an extremely guarded/fearful optimism?


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
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DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
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Hey Jimbo, better words than I used. I think you hit it.

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Jimbo,

That's pretty darn close. I don't know how to not feel this way at this point. It's not a very good feeling, but hey, I felt this way up to last night too only less and I managed to set it aside and interact well with her.

I guess time will tell whether this is true or just a massivly sick cake eating experience.


Don't stand still.
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I was listening to the radio and heard this and thought of you and what you're going thru. Just these 2 lines of a great song.

"Two strangers learn to fall in love again

I get the joy of rediscovering you"


You and her are somewhat strangers again and need to rediscover each other. Time and patience...











dl443322 #1811401 07/31/09 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: beginnersmind
Hey Jimbo, better words than I used. I think you hit it.


Thanks, B....

But I like your advice about this better than my description of it.

I'm sure T is following my drift?

Originally Posted By: trapt
Jimbo,

That's pretty darn close. I don't know how to not feel this way at this point. It's not a very good feeling, but hey, I felt this way up to last night too only less and I managed to set it aside and interact well with her.

I guess time will tell whether this is true or just a massivly sick cake eating experience.


Time for me to indulge in a little philosophical rumination....

This is a process. For both of you. Not only individually, but as a pair.

Something that a lot of us don't realize until we go through a growth experience like this is that, when you have a R/get M, there are three entities involved...

You, them, and "us".

It seems to me that our expectations when we first get together is that "the two shall be as one"- meaning that the two individuals joining will meld together, becoming this new identity, and losing their own individual identities in the process.

But notice that the term is NOT "the two shall be one"- to me, "the two shall be AS one" means that there is a third entity created out of the union- an "us"- that exists independently of "them" and "you".

So, not to put everybody to sleep here, all that I am trying to say is that, since "you" and "them" make up "us", is it so hard to see why working on yourself changes the "us"?

I think this concept is something many of us "see but...do not observe" (with apologies to Sherlock Holmes).

T, you have done/are doing the work. It also seems that your W has/is, as well. Even if your W had not, the "us" dynamic would still be evolving. Now, since the "us" dynamic is evolving (perhaps now twice as fast, compared to just one person working on themselves)......

It's in a major state of flux.

It's not positive, negative, good or bad.

It just is.

It's hard to balance on the fulcrum of the teeter-totter when the weight on either of the ends keeps shifting constantly- sometimes into radical new positions that you haven't experienced up to now.

But that is just what is needed here.

You have come this far, my friend. I have every confidence in you that you'll find your new balance point.

Just keep shifting....and moving forward.


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
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DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
-Jimbo
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Well said Jimbo and B!! I sure do have some friends that have a way with words. smile

t, that sounds like a very positive experience for you. I'm proud of you for being open and being yourself. You'll never get lost if you always take the high road. Right?

I'm so happy for you that you are seeing some good signs. I like Jimbo's guarded optimism.


"Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out."
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"One's best success often comes after their greatest disappointments."
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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Originally Posted By: beginnersmind
Hey Jimbo, better words than I used. I think you hit it.


Thanks, B....

But I like your advice about this better than my description of it.

I'm sure T is following my drift?


Yes, I agree with B. Keep pressing forward and do not forget what I have learned.


Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Time for me to indulge in a little philosophical rumination....


Ahh yes, I like getting all philosophical .


Originally Posted By: Jimbo
It's hard to balance on the fulcrum of the teeter-totter when the weight on either of the ends keeps shifting constantly- sometimes into radical new positions that you haven't experienced up to now.

But that is just what is needed here.

You have come this far, my friend. I have every confidence in you that you'll find your new balance point.

Just keep shifting....and moving forward.


Soooo.... What you and B are telling me is to keep my cool, be patient, go with the flow and don't stop living or else she just may jump off that sucker and leave me falling flat on my @SS. smile

I'll do my best.


Don't stand still.
fisherman #1811434 07/31/09 05:19 PM
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That sounds like a smart plan to me... I think you are taking it all in. ; )


"Success is the sum of small efforts, repeated day in and day out."
Robert Collier

"One's best success often comes after their greatest disappointments."
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Whew, I am glad you put that into terms I could understand, T - LOL!

Just kidding Jimbo, I like getting philosophical, too.

Listen T, I know you know what you have to do here. And I know you will do it.

But you are human, and this is something new from her and it threw you a bit. And that's ok. It's ok to get on the teeter totter as long as you remember the rules of play.

dl443322 #1811511 07/31/09 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: beginnersmind
It's ok to get on the teeter totter as long as you remember the rules of play.



Yeah. Rules like "Don't get thrown from her jostling the teeter-totter"! grin


PATIENCE AND FORTITUDE CONQUER ALL THINGS.
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

DBing and MLC take their toll....Please provide exact CHANGE.
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