Stuck808, try and have fun in Hawaii! I have been once, it's such a beautiful place, try and focus on that and the kids and just enjoy yourself as much as possible.
Sandi2 - You describe above what I know to be true, and I have spent time thinking on. I know my W is detached, and does not want to work on R at all, she has said as much to me in the past, including 'You should never have to work on a R, it should just happen naturally' To some extent that's true, but I believe at times you DO need to work on them.
However, getting to know what will attract her back is the hard part, as I simply don't know, and asking directly is out of the question...
I suppose that's where you work on being a strong confident MAN comes in. I love reading your posts as they help give me insights I have not had before..
M: 41 STBXW: 41 D: 9 Bomb: 4/26/09
On board the D train now..
"Suffering is when we try to change what we cannot."
