Originally Posted By: K4D
I understand what you are saying mules.

However, I am not interested in finding someone else of the opposite sex. I didn't make a covenant with someone else for life.

NO one asked you to "make a covenant with OW..." you reduce things too much and oversimplify, but hey, it's your life.But don't put words into others mouths...

Perhaps the number of returning S's is so low because so many people give up to early. Sometimes it takes years and years for things to turn around. Also, maybe they did not continue to pray and turn to God and be faithful and make him #1 during that time. I don't know. I don't have any idea what other people's situations and beliefs are. I just know what mine are.

Don't know where you got the 5% number...so can't respond. Except to say that most people repeat the same mistakes they made earlier....


Lovingly detach, yes. Live my life right now, yes. Give up, no. Does Jesus give up on us? No, he doesn't. Am I hiding behind religion? No. Do I need to focus on it more for me? Yes. But to quit praying for that person whom I will not mention, I can't do that. To quit standing in the gap for my prodigal, I can't do that.

Stop putting words into my mouth and stop oversimplifying other's comments. You are not that superficial and we sure aren't. YOu know darn well what you are avoiding...

Build my life as it is right now, yes. Much work to be done there. Lose my faith in God's promises, no.
[i]Who asked you to do that? No one. Stop reducing our comments to anti-Christian bigotry. IT deflects from you having to answer legit questions designed to help YOU.
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Free will, free will, free will. Yes, God gives everyone free will.

INcluding you, yet you won't exercise it. You keep doing the same thing which is hiding behind your new found faith to avoid confronting your all too human problems. And refusing to work on them.

However, that doesn't mean he can't and won't influence people. I give you Saul who was converted to Paul. I give you Jonah who refused and ran from God. Did not a whale swallow him up and still take him where God wanted him? Could these people have still chosen their free will? Yes, they could have. But God was able to persuade them to do His will. So to say that God can't or won't intervene is a lack of faith in prayer.

NO ONE SAID "GOD CAN'T OR WON'T"...STOP ARGUING THAT. It's insulting and untrue and again, you use this everytime to hide behind, and to act as if your beliefs are being attacked; they are not.

I think that God expects us to stand in the gap no matter what and keep praying and having faith in him to restore our M's since we made a covenant with him. A lot of times that requires a great deal of patience which I am having to learn and changing on my part. This isn't running to God to get out of having to work on me. It is turning to God in faith and also asking that he change me by providing the resources I need to do his will and be the H I need to be and father I need to be and Christian I need to be.

[[color:#CC0000]i]"faith that he'll help you "By providing the Resources??? RESOURCES??? You mean like going to AA meetings, or talking to a C, or a T or coming HERE to this site and yet not taking any or SOME of the advice given? Those resources? We are all around you and so are those resources, but, "There are none so blind as those with eyes- who refuse to see..."
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It also means not seeking comfort in man, but in God. The bible says cursed is the man who seeks comfort in men and blessed is the man who seeks comfort in God. Obviously that is something that I am having to work on as to not seek comfort in my W but seek it in God. It is a growing process and part of faith.

Kevin


did you hear a word of what we said? I submit your communication problems are well identified HERE and probably represent a significant pattern in your marriage, from which you might learn, if you opened your eyes and heart and stopped waiting for God to write letters in the sky. HIS messages are all around you but you don't want to see them...so you "Wait in faith" (your words) for the message YOU WANT and until you get that....you'll hear nothing... I am not a priest or a nun, but I don't know if I'd call that faith.
Definitely stubborness of some sort. I mean you have refused to avail yourself of the numerous resources CG has sent you, (COUNTLESS), or the meetings we have suggested (resource) but b/c you were too good for them and couldn't figure out how to shop around to find another group, I THEN LISTED WAYS TO DO SO (= resource) and the c, (also a resource in hersef) and when you chose not to see the "too young" for you C, and eventually told us that you were not seeing him anymore...we gave you advice about how to find another one = RESOURCE, so, that comment about you hoping "God sends you the resources", or words to that effect, really throws me for a loop. Almost made me laugh.

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M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change