Thanks Puppy. I have been reading on here for a while and always value your input. It is hard to know when to let my guard down because he says he wants to work things out and a lot of his actions are consistent with that. I would never have guessed he was in contact with her by his actions. It was actually someone from her camp that notified me. I think they know the whole thing is sick and hoped I would do something so her husband would not have to deal with it. It's a mess. It is so great when we are getting along, gettting closer and then bam!!! 2X4 across the forehead something is revieled and I am picking up the pieces of my heart and he is back in his hole feeling like [censored]. My DB coach has said I need to stop bringing her up, but I'm not sure how you do that when you catch them in a lie. I know I need to just detach again and GAL. I am just so tired of the Roller coaster.