Kevin, I read your post above.You mentioned advising people who have more hope than you have.We all have a chance.In your sitch your D was dismissed.Is that not a good thing as you told me?I've read that seps. generally end in D but not in all cases.A decent percentage do end up reconciling.My W right now has prety much told me to either do the D or Sep.I still feel pressured by this.She is having the sep. drawn up as we speak.As I mentioned in my post in my heart I don't want a divorce but can't stop her right now.I can delay it though.Does it help me in the long run?I don't know.I know that it is killing me right now .My W does a lot better than me financially also which means I have more to gain if she does file for D.Keep your head high.Even though other sitchs may look like they have more hope that is not necessararily true.We can support each other here but in the end it is up to you what to do.