Originally Posted By: K4D
Time continues to go by and I see no change in W.


if we were to ask your wife, what positive changes has she seen in you? what makes kevin a more attractive option to being single? how would she answer? this is important.

Originally Posted By: K4D

How long before any kind of spiritual awakening occurs? Some realization of what a vow and covenant really means?


this may never happen. you need to realize this may never happen. maybe you are more spiritual. your wife maybe more sexual. the two of you maybe incompatiable.

what if she is of the taught, i dont want to be spirtually awoken, that crap is for the birds. what if she would prefer to explore her sexual energies instead of her spiritual energies? are your convictions strong enough to convert a heathen? would you be willing let her go if it meant you had to give up your beliefs to have her come back?

Originally Posted By: K4D

Whatever stuff happened in the M doesn't give her the right to be with other men and break up our family. What part of for better or FOR WORSE to people not get these days?


what is the WORSE thing to happen in a marriage to convince someone that they need to get out? when do people have a "right"?