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Originally Posted By: Gypsy
Alex..

When I was going through the emotional chaos of divorce I clung to keeping the family whole with every fiber of belief, anxiety, fear I had. "It's all about the children. It's about the family. It's about us.. It's, it's it's."

At some point I realized that as important as family is, that 'it's about the children' was a smoke screen for my own fear, my own disbelief. Yes, the shredding of the family unit does put a hole in their hearts. Yet, kids are resilient, adapting better than the adults. They model after their parents. My 18 year old son volunteered that if he thought about what his dad had done, was doing it would eat him alive. Instead my son chooses to focus on what is good in his life, enjoys the present and goes forward.

I don't know.. you do the best you can, become the best person you can be, learn appropriate boundaries, become an active listener... grow.. and see where it goes.

And underneath it all is the unconditional love for your children, a whole new you emerging... more aware, thoughtful.. and just plain incredible. A different you, a new beginning.. hopefully with your spouse.. if not with the knowledge you did all you could in the best way possible. Respect, honor and dignity.

As long as I blamed spouse, I was a victim. Letting go of blaming allowed growth.

Hmmm.. seeing the time.. Am I sleeping typing?

*hugs*


Gypsy,

Points all well taken. What I have a tough time with is that the boys "know" that it's "because" I did something "really bad". That's a tough pill to swallow when it's anything but the truth.

W yesterday told me she was upset by what the counselor told us each about what S9 had said because "it made her look bad" because how could they think she was "so shallow" that she wouldn't forgive me "for one little thing."

I said, "Yeah, I can kinda see that, but they think the reason is because I did something bad. That's a tough pill to swallow."

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What I have a tough time with is that the boys "know" that it's "because" I did something "really bad". That's a tough pill to swallow when it's anything but the truth...they think the reason is because I did something bad."AlexEN
That is a tough pill to swallow.

All you can do is continue to model what a man does after he's done something bad. Or after others think he's done something bad.

This is what they will carry with them all their lives.

This you can do.


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"My soul, be satisfied with flowers,
With fruit, with weeds even; but gather them
In the one garden you may call your own."
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I heard this on the radio today, and I thought with just a little modification, it speaks to your situation. Just instead of "We'll marry", you would need to change the lyric to "We'll stay married."

My father sits at night with no lights on
His cigarette glows in the dark.
The living room is still;
I walk by, no remark.
I tiptoe past the master bedroom where
My mother reads her magazines.
I hear her call sweet dreams,
But I forgot how to dream.

But you say it's time we moved in together
And raised a family of our own, you and me -
Well, that's the way I've always heard it should be:
You want to marry me, we'll marry.

My friends from college they're all married now;
They have their houses and their lawns.
They have their silent noons,
Tearful nights, angry dawns.
Their children hate them for the things they're not;
They hate themselves for what they are-
And yet they drink, they laugh,
Close the wound, hide the scar.

But you say it's time we moved in together
And raised a family of our own, you and me -
Well, that's the way I've always heard it should be:
You want to marry me, we'll marry.

You say we can keep our love alive
Babe - all I know is what I see -
The couples cling and claw
And drown in love's debris.
You say we'll soar like two birds through the clouds,
But soon you'll cage me on your shelf -
I'll never learn to be just me first
By myself.



Well O.K., it's time we moved in together
And raised a family of our own, you and me -
Well, that's the way I've always heard it should be,
You want to marry me, we'll marry,
We'll marry.

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Originally Posted By: Gardener

...All you can do is continue to model what a man does after he's done something bad. Or after others think he's done something bad.

This is what they will carry with them all their lives.

This you can do.


Okay Gardener, let me get this straight, I'm supposed to act guilty, even though I'm not, but since they think I have, I can do it, so they can see their not guilty dad acting guilty to show them what... crazy


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Sara,

Maybe it was the power of suggestion, but I had song lyrics popping into my head all day today on the lengthy drive to drop S9 at camp and the return trip without him... But, it wasn't Carly Simon I was hearing in my head (as I drove along with W who seems almost like a stranger to me now), it was a Beatles song I don't remember hearing in years:

You've Got a Hold on Me...

I don't like you
But I love you

Seems that I'm always
Thinking of you
Oh, oh, oh,
You treat me badly
I love you madly

You've really got a hold on me
You've really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me,

I don't want you,
But I need you
Don't want to kiss you
But I need too
Oh, oh, oh
You do me wrong now
My love is strong now
You've really got a hold on me
You've really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me, baby

I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, hold me, hold me, hold me

I want to leave you
Don't want to stay here
Don't want to spend
Another day here
Oh, oh, oh, I want to split now
I just can't quit now

You've really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me, baby

I love you and all I want you to do
Is just hold me, please, hold me, squeeze, hold me, hold me

You've really got a hold on me
You've really got a hold on me
You really got a hold on me
You've really got a hold on me


I think that's the tug of war so many of us have...

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Excellent song. And you're right, not one I ever hear played. The drive to camp. I always loved that. So exciting. I guess because I remember how I felt as a kid anticipating camp and being in a world of just kids with lots to do. Watching the kids run off with their new friends, and then feeling like a fish out of water, as a parent standing there with nothing to do. Yes, and that empty car on the way back home. But a good day. I hope you enjoyed it.

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Headed out to first four-way conference with our respective "counsel"... Hmmm... I don't even know what to expect...

Send me good karma through the etherspace guys and gals and GALs... grin


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