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sandi, if you come across this post, would you take a second and give any insights you have? it'd be much appreciated. gucci, too.


Josh, I tried to warn you about her bag of tricks. God may have given men more physical body strength than women.....but trust me.....the female has her advantages!!!

Your young W has soooo much to learn and she will have to get through all her game playing before she is going to humble herself to "start" learning. She hasn't even begun yet b/c she is so sure she can get you back with her throwing you a bone.....just as if "you" were the pet! She needs to discover that you are not a dog that will do tricks at her commands. She needs to wake up & grow up and decide she wants to act like a W to you instead of some silly high school teenager. She's not at that place...yet. You are older and you have to be the stronger person. If you let her use her gimmicks on you and fall for her dramatic schemes then you will not accomplish your goals.

Yes, you've had a setback, but I think you can quickly regain your stand again. Keep your eye on the goal and remember what she is capable of doing and how easily it is for you to get sucked into feeling sorry for her. IMHO, I think you should stop telling her you are "sorry she feels that way" about something b/c it is a sinker. She throws out a line.....you bite, and she pulls you in.....hook, line, & sinker!


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!