Thanks Karen,

Honestly my control issues were kinda weak. I was more of a person trying to get it rather than exploiting it...really I never had any control of anything, but your right if I ever expect to reach her and more importantly keep her than I must put these issues to rest forever. My counselor said today that not being insecure is almost impossible when you have someone pull away from you while you are doing everything they ever asked you to do, and your actively trying to save a marriage. Insecurities are what really killed me. And I'm working on all the above. I wont give myself any excuses, I know we both created our sitch, but I'm going to clean up my end... and let God(and some DB'ing) do the rest. I was really a push-over in my R. I think I did to much. That will probably be the hard part for me, knowing when Ive done to much.