JR09, I was thinking about your post a bit more...and thinking of my own time spent with my S2...and it finally occurred to me why I felt such a need to respond to you with the suggestion that you wait...it's not just about your W...and pushing her away - it's also about you - and being in the present with your kids. My STBX moved out on Nov 1 - just in time for the holidays - and so when I spent the bit of holiday time I got with me kids - and had to face those family occasions on my own - without my partner of a decade - (though wife of just four years) - I felt incomplete - and that is exactly the wrong way to feel. I was just writing about this on OrangeDog's thread - but, at the risk of sounding like a on-trick pony - I'll once again say that you cannot be happy with another person - nor can another person be happy with you - if you need them for your experience of a moment to be complete. Be there with your boys, I mean, really BE there...let everything about the time you have together fulfill you as only you can allow yourself to be filled...