I know how you are feeling. The constant need or reaching to see if they are there. I feel the same way. I wish my wife would be there for me. I know she told me the other day that in the marriage she felt so alone. I can only imagine how she felt. Probably how I feel right now. Empty house, no kids, etc. As for DR, I got more out of it or enjoyed it better than DB. Both were good books for sure and gave me a lot of insight. But I felt that DR was a little bit better in my situation. All in all I think you need to read them as with other books and find out what works. Look for signs of improvement and do more of the same. For me going dark gave my wife the wrong impression. Or at least I thought so. She felt as though I had completely detached from her and did not care about working things out and had moved on. That was the last thing I wanted her to think. I have tried something in the middle and it seems to be working when I can stick to it. RTQ


Me 34
WAW 34
S 3
D 1
Marr. 7
Tog. 8
Bomb 04/11/2009
Left 04/13/2009