Well, I am so sorry for you, but I am REALLY sorry for your D18. CAW must really be living in alien land to put D18 in that sitch.

You know, you just really never know about these things. Some on this board were able to salvage their M with thier spouses without the spouses moving out. I don't know if my M will be salvaged, but I know in my case, there wasn't a chance in H$ll if my H hadn't moved out. I believe he had to be alone. He has since said "a person really has a chance to think when they are gone and alone".

May I suggest you get the book "Getting Back Together" and read it. If anything, will help your PMA - it is very supportive of separations in troubled marriages. Almost like you need the separation to do just that - Separate the old R with the new R.

I do, however envy those on this board like Sage and Shiny who were able to piece it back together without their spouses leaving. Strange, isn't it. Those are the two who don't have children - and yet it was their H's who stayed in the home to piece?????? What about staying for the kids????? Whats up with that?

hugs