BH my friend did you not read what I wrote. I DID NOT call my xh. My son did and does every time I put my foot down. Yes he is a grown man BUT he lives under my roof. I did say several times what you said above. Does not work. He is stronger than me so there is NO making him, like you said he is a grown man. I did speak to xh while son had him on the phone because son was telling him a bunch of lies and xh was believing him. I ask xh to take son to live with him and he said NO. So now what?